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    I'm unsure whether we've taken this approach before...I wonder if we can discern a pattern and possibly ages of Rado's movements according to the numbers they assigned. My records show a handful.
    For lack of a better option at this point, here is my suggested lexicon:
    Base caliber # - Rado Series - Rado Caliber #

    AS 1858 - Rado 002 - n/a
    AS 1859 - Rado 006? - n/a
    AS 1958 - Rado 008 - n/a
    AS 1977 - Rado 112 - n/a
    AS 1977 - Rado 303 - n/a
    ETA 2783 - Rado 211 - 2797
    ETA 2789 - Rado 211 - 2798
    ETA 2783 - Rado 408 - 2797 (DS 1 chronometer)
    ETA 2789 - Rado 403 - n/a
    Peseux 7001 - Rado 411 - n/a
    ETA 2824 - Rado 412 - n/a
    Peseux 7001 - Rado 505 - n/a
    ETA 2670 - Rado 701 - n/a
    Peseux 7001 - Rado 708 - n/a

    Please add anything you have in your records, I'll try to keep up with a spreadsheet if it looks like we're getting anywhere.
    Brad
    Last edited by Watch Carefully; 08-26-2013, 03:42 PM.

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    Originally posted by Watch Carefully View Post
    I'm unsure whether we've taken this approach before...I wonder if we can discern a pattern and possibly ages of Rado's movements according to the numbers they assigned. My records show a handful.
    For lack of a better option at this point, here is my suggested lexicon:
    Base caliber # - Rado Series - Rado Caliber #

    AS 1858 - Rado 002 - n/a
    AS 1859 - Rado 006? - n/a
    AS 1958 - Rado 008 - n/a
    AS 1977 - Rado 112 - n/a
    AS 1977 - Rado 303 - n/a
    ETA 2783 - Rado 211 - 2797
    ETA 2789 - Rado 211 - 2798
    ETA 2783 - Rado 408 - 2797 (DS 1 chronometer)
    ETA 2789 - Rado 403 - n/a
    Peseux 7001 - Rado 411 - n/a
    ETA 2824 - Rado 412 - n/a
    ETA 2670 - Rado 701 - n/a
    Peseux 7001 - Rado 708 - n/a

    Please add anything you have in your records, I'll try to keep up with a spreadsheet if it looks like we're getting anywhere.
    Brad
    My Diastar has an AS1858 Movement! I remember Mike saying the watch was from the early 60's rather than the late 60's which I had thought!
    http://watchguy.co.uk/service-rado-diastar-as-1858/

    Has always thought my New Green Horse was from the early 70's but seeing as it has a AS 1859 movement maybe late 60's would be more accurate. Maybe 1966-1969 ??
    http://watchguy.co.uk/service-rado-green-horse-as1859/
    Chris

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    • #3
      A good resource idea Brad. I was going to pop the back off my Jetliner right here and now but it is on...snugly. I'll check some things later.
      Solve all your doubts through question mode.

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      • #4
        My newest Balboa has an RADO ETA 2824 with the number 404.

        Also, Royal Elegance SR-A RADO ETA 2821 with the number 606.

        Also, Balboa DeLuxe RADO ETA 2797 with the number 403.
        Last edited by Woodlands1; 08-26-2013, 10:26 PM.

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        • #5
          Marcus' Balboa Chronometer is an ETA 2824 with a 410.

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          • #6
            Here's what I've got so far. I have both of the same numbers as Brad for a variety of 2783s. I have quite a few with no Rado codes, especially ASs. I will include them but if you do not think they need to be, feel free to leave them off any spreadsheet you compile Brad.

            AS 1700/01- n/a-n/a (both Jetliners and my unnumbered Diastar)
            AS 1700/01-1789-n/a (this is the 30J version)
            AS 1856 -n/a-n/a
            AS 1858-n/a-n/a
            AS 1858- 102- n/a
            AS 1859- 003- n/a
            AS1859- 005- n/a
            AS 1876- n/a- n/a
            ETA 2472- n/a- n/a
            ETA 2789- 301- 2798
            ETA 2789- 312- 2798
            ETA 2789- 402- 2798
            ETA 2824- 406- 2824
            ETA 2824- 501- 2824
            ETA 2824- 704- 2824
            Solve all your doubts through question mode.

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            • #7
              THanks, fellas. I don;t know what this will tell us, but it's a simple exercise that may reveal some pattern we hadn't spotted previously.

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              • #8
                I think the Rado numbers could potentially be decoded. The numbers do seem to correspond to particular versions/eras of movements and I noticed than in the early days the lower jewel count ASs had none at all.
                Solve all your doubts through question mode.

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                • #9
                  ETA 2651 - Rado 310 - Green Horse(ladies)
                  ETA 2658 - Rado 805 - Starfire(ladies)
                  ETA 2671 - Rado 903 - automatic(ladies)
                  ETA 2783 - Rado 2797 407 - DS 1/E
                  ETA 2788 - Rado 2794 - 990 DeLuxe
                  ETA 2789 - Rado 2798 465 - Voyager Two
                  ETA 2824 - Rado 2824 505 - Berard 700
                  Best regards, Mike
                  vintage-rado.de

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                  • #10
                    Certainly there is no pattern popping out just yet. Maybe the number represents the watch technician that made the watch??? Maybe the number reflects some combination of how the movement is decorated.... color, winding mechanism, etc.??? Maybe a QC stamp???

                    Working to decode Rado intent can be maddening.

                    If I were a Billionaire, I would go and find (if any can be found) some vintage watch manufacturers former employees and record as much history as possible that they could provide. I think it would fascinating. Somebody, somewhere has answers to our questions. I would get those answers before all have passed and there is history that can be recorded.

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                    • #11
                      I agree--not much of a pattern yet. It may be as simple as lot numbers or purchase order numbers...there may be nothing to decode.
                      But if it helps us estimate dates of production, that would be a nice result!

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                      • #12
                        True enough. More data is better than less.

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                        • #13
                          hey miles,
                          i know that the seller of the recentl LAPIS 505 and many other rado watches/movements lives 2 streets away from the RADO headquarters in lengnau.
                          to ask him a little question about rado´s history (and also technicians) would be less than a billion dollars... maybe you got some luck!
                          Pimpclinic.v.s.o.p.

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                          • #14
                            Unless a person actually worked at the factory and was aware of the models going out the door and what the numbering scheme on the case and movement meant, he wouldn't be any value to our quest for information on vintage watches. That is why it would take some serious money to track down people that worked at the factory 50 years ago and could still recall and provide the information we seek. There are probably very few left living as most would be over 70 if they went to work in 1963 at 20 years of age.

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                            • #15
                              sorry for my bad english.
                              i wanted to make clear the this seller could know some of the old Rado Workers/Designers/Salesman or any employees .
                              if anyone would know him it would be easy to ask him for further information on it.
                              he could be a good source ...

                              Cheers,
                              Pimpclinic.v.s.o.p.

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