hate that. I have lost a lot of good ones that way. one word of advice to make all of this anxiety go away.....auction sniper. Has totally changed my e-bay experience since Brad turned me onto it a year or two ago. Now I don't get caught up in the frenzy and change my bid at the last minute, nor do I refresh the screen every .2nanoseconds to see where it is at in the closing moments. I can just sit back and wait for the e-mail stating whether or not I won, and if I do win, I know exactly what I paid.