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    This one arrived today and it's everything that I expected, maybe late 50s early 60s What do you think?
    The problem is that I can not find any info on Reference R 255 in stainless steel, if I search for the R 253 gold plated or just Rado Extra Flat a few gp come up with the same movement FHF 72 at different auctions and a couple of blogs.

    I searched the forum and there is only 1 thread by JP http://www.equationoftime.com/forums...ado-extra-flat and is the gold plated, the model Extra flat is not in the name list here at the forum, Mike has it on his page but it shows a photo of the gold plated, no SS.
    Mike posted in the thread the German 1962 Catalogue that shows the Extra Flat Model 11563, IMO I don't think that is the one, it has 21 jewels, applied anchor and Swiss under the six o'clock marker.

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    I beleive this is the one in the catalog, I could not find a back case photo. Armbanduhr: seltene, elegante, extra flache Herrenuhr 'Rado Streamline' in Edelstahl, Ref. 11563, 1957 bis 1965



    That is another mystery the word Swiss does not appear on the dial and I took out the bezel to make sure, I looked at other examples and they were the same, only in the movement do you see the word Swiss.


    This is the only SS model that I was able to find but it has a different case and Reference # with the same movement FHF 72



    Sorry for the long post. (HELP)
    And finally, here is the watch in a temporary strap 19mm lugs, what I like is that it wears big and is all dial at 36mm.









    Last edited by JOSE G; 08-02-2019, 07:48 PM.

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      Wow, Josť, that is a really rare item, primarily due to the FHF caliber 72 inside. I'm unaware of many watches Rado made with the 25-jewel variant. They did also use a lower jewel-count version.
      I too have a watch with that movement, though mine has a date:

      http://www.watchcarefully.com/inventory/fhf72-4.html







      I'd consider selling it if anyone is interested.
      Brad
      Last edited by Watch Carefully; 08-01-2019, 07:58 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Watch Carefully View Post
        Wow, Josť, that is a really rare item, primarily due to the FHF caliber 72 inside. I'm unaware of many watches Rado made with the 25-jewel variant. They did also use a lower jewel-count version.
        I too have a watch with that movement, though mine has a date:

        http://www.watchcarefully.com/inventory/fhf72-4.html







        I'd consider selling it if anyone is interested.
        Brad
        Thanks Brad, I appreciate it, I've seen yours, rare and very nice.
        I've been after a thin hand wind dress watch with no complications for a while so I'm very happy with this one.

        What do you think of the year, it appears to be in this advert from the 50s but I'm not sure.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JOSE G View Post

          What do you think of the year, it appears to be in this advert from the 50s but I'm not sure.
          Great question. I usually defer to Mike on questions about age for these early models. The dial and movement are presumably late-1950s to early 1960s. That case seems like a very modern design, almost like something from later. However, the hands on your example identify it, based on my experience and pre-conceptions, as late 1950s*, so I would guess it is not much later than 1960, if at all.

          *that is an older style than the stick hands on my FHF 74-2.

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          • #6
            Thanks Brad.
            Come on Mike, shine in!

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            • #7
              Nice find Jose. I agree with Brad. I think the ref number on the case marks the case as a 1950s one and I doubt whether the watch was made much after 1960. I do not have a Rado with the FHF-72 but I do have a modern watch with a heavily uprated 17 J version.
              Last edited by Watch Carefully; 08-01-2019, 12:17 PM.
              Solve all your doubts through question mode.

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=Henry Krinkle;n580949]Nice find Jose. I agree with Brad. I think the ref number on the case marks the case as a 950s one and I doubt whether the watch was made much after 1960. I do not have a Rado with the FHF-72 but I do have a modern watch with a heavily uprated 17 J version.[/Q

                Thank you Henry, sure I remember your Armand Nicolet L-10 very nice.
                ARMAN NICOLET.jpg

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                • #9
                  Congrats Jose, I can't add to what's been said here, but it looks like you've picked up a rare Rado with a rare and beautiful movement, almost warrants a display back, like Henry's AN, I think.

                  P.S. It looks to be a good size in comparison to the GH, what does it measure?
                  Last edited by Tim.; 08-02-2019, 02:39 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tim. View Post
                    Congrats Jose, I can't add to what's been said here, but it looks like you've picked up a rare Rado with a rare and beautiful movement, almost warrants a display back, like Henry's AN, I think.

                    P.S. It looks to be a good size in comparison to the GH, what does it measure?
                    Thanks Tim, it appears and feels like it is but is only 1mm bigger, the GH is 35mm w/o the crown and the Extra Flat is 36mm w/o the crown.
                    I like how they pull that one off.

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                    • #11
                      A classic dress watch Jose.
                      Congratulations on finding such a rarity.
                      http://s145.photobucket.com/user/sco...deshow/Watches

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by scottjc View Post
                        A classic dress watch Jose.
                        Congratulations on finding such a rarity.
                        Thanks.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Watch Carefully View Post
                          Wow, Josť, that is a really rare item, primarily due to the FHF caliber 72 inside. I'm unaware of many watches Rado made with the 25-jewel variant. They did also use a lower jewel-count version.
                          I too have a watch with that movement, though mine has a date:

                          http://www.watchcarefully.com/inventory/fhf72-4.html







                          I'd consider selling it if anyone is interested.
                          Brad
                          And this is the only Extra Flat that I found in 23 jewels, probably using the FHF-72 that Brad mentions, do not know the Ref. #


                          This is probably the movement, posted by Brad.



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